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Re: The Unity Express Derails in DC (1.86 / 15)

Florida voters are PISSED, too.  Check it out:


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by TexasDarlin on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:45:48 PM EST

Re: The Unity Express Derails in DC (2.00 / 10)

Harold Ickes, the man who derailed the unity express.


by BlueGAinDC on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:47:17 PM EST
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Harold Ickes doesn't give a crap (1.90 / 10)

Seriously, this is how he behaved for a large part of the meeting yesterday, while the various speakers were making their case:


by 2501 on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 12:55:57 PM EST
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Re: Harold Ickes doesn't give a crap (2.00 / 4)

What a boor.


by parahammer on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:01:33 PM EST
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Dressed :for the occasion like he was (1.50 / 6)

going to clean out his storage unit.
Hell, maybe he was. About time. He's a relic. A has been. A corrupted politician from the past who has no respect for the party anymore.  
I support our nominee President Barack Obama - and the Admins can't stand me, so I can't rec or rate. This is very mean if you were to ask me.
by TheFullBerry on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:07:18 PM EST
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Re: Harold Ickes doesn't give a crap (2.00 / 2)

Huh what is wrong in what he did. thats a rep from his camp that he does not need to sit and listen to since the speech that the governor was giving was already in all probability read by her supporters.

It is petty to draw attention to him about this. Stop looking to find faults w/ her or her team . The nomination is over and try to find reasons to win them over to obama's camp.


Rise / Repeat / But for god's sake don't spin!
by aliveandkickin on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:25:00 PM EST
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Re: Harold Ickes doesn't give a crap (none / 0)

Harold Ickes is a rep. from the Clinton Camp like Luca Brazzi was a rep. for the Corleone family.  


by Bargeron on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:49:29 PM EST
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Re: Harold Ickes doesn't give a crap (none / 0)

May they both sleep with the virtual fishes.


by ReillyDiefenbach on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 02:08:16 PM EST
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Re: Harold Ickes doesn't give a crap (1.00 / 2)

Ah, the smell of unity burning in the morning.


If you want Unity, nominate a Democrat
by rankles on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 04:52:54 PM EST
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WTF... (2.00 / 1)

...does this prove? Maybe the guy has a bad back and can't sit for long periods of time. Besides, it was his own supporter he was supposedly disrespecting.

There are plenty of things about Ickes to find detestable. This isn't one of them...


by Steve in Sacto on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:59:25 PM EST
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Re: Harold Ickes doesn't give a crap (2.00 / 2)

Please.  One doesn't have to be looking directly at the speaker to pay attention to everything he's saying.  Besides, he already knows what this person is going to argue.

If you watch that video objectively, there's no story here.

In fact, I sometimes do the same thing he was doing when I'm at conferences and really focusing on what the speaker is saying.  The fidgeting and walking around actually helps me focus, and I don't think I'm alone in that.


by slynch on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 02:28:08 PM EST
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I'm with you (2.00 / 3)

When I read something I am pacing constantly, it helps me to focus.  Ickes doesn't deserve grief for that.


Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!
by Student Guy on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:36:41 PM EST
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Re: I'm with you (none / 0)

I work for a company where the chief of global technology for our division recently decreed that all meetings will be held standing and walking; that includes those participants who join by teleconference.

Given the general level of management idiocy (cf any Dilbert cartoon over the last 10 years) I thought this was not half bad.

Anyhow, Ickes is reported to have such a foul mouth that people sometimes think he suffers from Tourrette's syndrome.  I am therefore immediately sympathetic, since my (permissive) parents' refusal to punish me for swearing allowed me to grow up with a mouth like a sailor.


The fascist takeover of America has already occurred; but the people have not yet realized.
by magnetics on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:58:15 AM EST
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Re: The Unity Express Derails in DC (1.64 / 14)

Wow - amazing how quickly the HillarysVoices bots got you on the rec list!   Yea Bots!


by Virginia Liberal on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:16:42 PM EST
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The following evidence (1.88 / 9)

1) is the blog of a Republican tool

http://777denny.wordpress.com

Look in the blogroll for "anyone but Obama" links and you find someone's blog there.

I would dare say this denny guy who runs the blog is scared sh!tless about Obama.

2) follow this link which shows that the illustrious diarist believes Larry Sinclair even calling him my favorite Obama Trouble Maker (pity this was scrubbed isn't it):

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:eNE e-CD09L4J:texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008 04/04/notes-from-an-ordinary-day+my+favo rite+Obama+trouble+maker+site:texasdarli n.wordpress.com&hl=en&ct=clnk&am p;cd=1&gl=us


Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!
by Student Guy on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:30:26 PM EST
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Why do you hate the Michigan Democratic party? (2.00 / 3)

After all, it was their proposal the the Rules committee adopted, and that Ickes so pettily called a hijacking.

Do the Democrats of Michigan, in the absence of a legitimate and DNC-sanctioned primary election, not have the right to determine the makeup of their own delegation to the national convention?


Ignorance is weakness. Get strong.
by tbetz on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:42:00 PM EST
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That's a very interesting point. (none / 0)

Do the Democrats of Michigan, in the absence of a legitimate and DNC-sanctioned primary election, not have the right to determine the makeup of their own delegation to the national convention?

I'm inclined to say no, as a general rule.  However it does definitely deserve some thought.

As for this situation, I think that them doing so was perhaps the best possible solution.


Check out McCain.
by you like it on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 01:47:21 PM EST
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Reserving rights is not (2.00 / 3)

the same as fighting it in Denver.

I think those who want that will be disappointed by Senator Clinton's upcoming decision to unify the party.

I have no doubt that she will end this soon after the primaries are over.  She is a Democrat and will work to defeat McCain.

4 delegates are not worth it.  And the "prinicple" will be overcome by her desire to unify the party.  


by TomP on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 02:23:36 PM EST
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Re: Reserving rights is not (1.00 / 4)

You're living in a dreamworld, kid.

This thing is going to the convention.


If you want Unity, nominate a Democrat
by rankles on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 04:54:55 PM EST
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You may be right, (2.00 / 1)

but I really doubt it.

By the way, I'm 53.  


by TomP on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 06:17:08 PM EST
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Re: You may be right, (none / 0)

Rankles is 112, so there.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 08:18:00 PM EST
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Another example... (none / 0)

... of the delightful dividends yielded by the Clinton message machine. Slash and burn politics at its finest.

Of course, what does the Clinton campaign leadership team care? All the results of a McCain presidency - more war casualties, loss of freedoms of choice, free speech, greater economic inequities, degradation of the environment - its just an abstraction to wealthy people like them. Won't hurt them one bit either way.


by odum on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 02:50:25 PM EST
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Re: The Unity Express Derails in DC (none / 0)

You go to convention and the democrats lose. Period.

You're calling for nothing but suicide, plain and simple.


by Yalin on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:19:09 PM EST
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Is YOUR comment snark? (1.00 / 2)

Serious question.


If you want Unity, nominate a Democrat
by rankles on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 04:55:46 PM EST
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Ridiculous (none / 0)

I am so sick of the Hillary won the popular vote arguement that has to rely on a series of twists and turns to be able to make such a claim. Counting votes from a state where no one campaigned is hardly a fair representation of the voters' will. What about the people who stayed home because the they had been told their state's primary would not count.

Also, I remember not so long ago the Hillary camp going on and on about the delegate count being what mattered. Seems a rather hypocritical turn about has taken place.


by chrisj on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 05:17:22 PM EST
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Hillary should claim half the caucus votes (none / 0)

because she hardly campaigned in them and she should get 4 extra delegates each because she won the popular vote.

And she should ccount the primary votes she got into the pop vote if the state had both and have Obama count only the number of pop votes he got in the caucus, since he says the delegates should be devided according to the caucus votes and not the primaries.


by itsadryheat on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:12:51 PM EST
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This is the same Ickes who voted to (none / 0)

strip the delegates from Florida and Michigan in December.

At this point the Clinton position on these states has longed since lapsed into parody.

The lies from Clinton on this issue are simply amazing.  More amazing, though, is that people actually believe them.


by fladem on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 06:55:06 PM EST
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Re: The Unity Express Derails in DC (none / 0)

Troll rated by cultural worker


TexasDarlin blog
by TexasDarlin on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 06:59:40 PM EST
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