Then, you've got some work to do!  :)  Who do you think got my whole family to vote for Obama?  Half of them wouldn't have even gotten off their lazy butts to vote if I hadn't pushed them.  It took a few emails to convince some others in my family, but they eventually came around.

My mom was on the fence until Bill made that Jesse Jackson crack.  Dad was on board after Edwards dropped out.  My wife and I jumped aboard after Feingold dropped out.  Our cat was smart enough to support Obama from the get go.

Exactly.  Obama voted for the Energy Bill because it bore legistlation for the deveopment and use of enthanol as an alternativ fuel.  Something like 40% of the corn used to produce ethanol is produced in Illinois.  Essentially, he voted in the interest of the state he was elected to represent as a senator.  

What goes entirely unheralded around these parts is that Obama proposed a number of amendments to the 2005 Energy Act (along w/ HRC) in an attempt to clean the thing up.

Senators are rarely faced with a morally unambiguous vote.  Almost every piece of legislation often has both good and bad in it.  On the whole, they are often difficult decisions.

That said, the AUMF should have been a no-brainer.  HRC goofed that one BADLY, and has righly suffered the consequences for it.

good reading?  

"Her remarks are, in my estimation, another sympton of Hillary-induced soul cancer."

i think i may have overestimated you.

She's the one that spent the past four-months whipping her followers into a frenzy.  I've seen her tactics - she posts a piece of alleged hatemail and says "this is what you're fighting".

Two days later and I'm arguing with someone over how I can support a candidate who calls his opponent a cunt.  I'm like "what????" and it turns out that the person I'm talking to is referring to Taylor Marsh's hatemail.  Checked her site for the first time in a couple of weeks and she's still at it.  I don't think her followers will let her back off.

And I assume you've seen her site.  It's a clearinghouse for anti-Obama rumors - she finds something, and her supporters mail it out to right-wing contact lists they have.  This happens ALL THE TIME.  

Mailing Hannity now!
-boxer4hrc

Don't need her, don't want her.  Won without her.  Can't have her anyway even if she was useful at this point, the damage is done.  Her followers will abandon her if she takes her boot off Obama's neck.

Have you read his last piece on HuffPo? Borderline insanity. I mean, when the republicans try to smear they do it with style. This guy wasn't even trying.

Senator Obama:  16,648,060

ABC news link:

http://abcnews.go.com/politics

Not close to 17 million...and oh wait...Looks like more voters have actually voted for Clinton.  But then I guess that's not something our Party really wants to advertise, nor do the rest of the MSM shills.

and jump on a line without trying to understand it, deserve to be dismissed.

Since you're more interested in bolstering your sense of self-righteousness than a rational dialogue, I'll leave the rest of your straw men to twist in the wind.

Yes, I've read that Bowers piece, too.. and a lot of it has been misinterpreted.  No one is excluding the blue collar voters... in fact, Obama is elevating th e status of unions.  His positions on 527's are that he doesn't like huge donors running the show.  He's not trying to shut down groups like MoveOn or small donor groups.  In fact, he's encouraging them.  

Obama is not trying to shut down advocacy groups he is trying to squeeze out the 527's that get set up for the sole purpose of running negative ads during the election. He is serious about running a different sort of campaign he doesn't want swiftboat groups going after McCain 'on his behalf'.

Yes he is  aiming to remake the party into a party where millions of small donors and not an few fat cats have the power. A party with a hi tech flat organization that reaches into 50 states and connects millions of activists not dependent on local power brokers and ward healers.  Obama is just executing a vision that was developed by the net roots and the Dean campaign.

There are some who are so emotionally invested in both candidates that for them it is about the candidates and not the voters, party or agenda. But the vast majority of voters, supporters and the super delegates are supporting Obama out of rational self interest. They think he is the strongest candidate who has the best chance of moving the Democratic agenda forward and reshaping the party into a winning majority national coalition. The minute that is not the case he would lose that support.

And spare me the canards about he is going to do it without Latinos and workers. His support among Latinos already exceeds his percentages among whites. He just got the endorsement of the steelworkers and has the Teamsters, SEIU and many other unions already working hard to for him.

is the raison d'etre of SoCal Darlin and her cohorts.  See, e.g., fingergate, sweetie gate.

How about we concentrate on today and let historians name the era? I'm happy supporting Obama, but I get a little worried about the overconfidence factor of people who think all he has to do is win the nomination and everything will fall into place...he not only has to get by McCain (which I am confident he can), he has to deal with a Congress that we don't yet know the makeup of, and a world that may have some nasty surprises in store, too. The first order of business will be repairing the incredible damage done by Bush et al...it won't be easy.